Die Hard Catholics to be Excommunicated

Sunday, July 20, 2008
Who would have thought that your desire to dedicate your life to your church, religion, and everything you believe in would lead to them kicking you to the curb? Welcome to the Catholic Church. A group of women who wish to become priests and spend their lives serving their God, preaching the good word, etc, will be excommunicated from the Catholic Church if they pursue their dreams. According to an email from Boston's Roman Catholic Archdiocese: "Catholics who attempt to confer a sacred order on a woman, and the women who attempt to receive a sacred order, are by their own actions separating themselves from the church." The Vatican has, in the past, used the argument that Jesus didn't have female apostles when explaining their reasoning behind why women cannot be ordained.

Uh, ... problem.

The only proof we have that Jesus (if he actually existed) didn't have female apostles is a collection of works written by a bunch of men. Their writings will undoubtedly be influenced (whether intentional or not) by their own views about women and those of the society and the times in which they lived, typically patriarchal societies where women had little public influence or status (behind the scenes is another story altogether). When you look at the bible though, their own words betray them. Women play an intrical, vital part through out the bible. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, an apostle is one who is sent on a mission; an ardent supporter. Many of the women in the bible easily fall into this category.

This is just one of the many things wrong with the Catholic Church and organized religion in general. The Church has become outdated, afraid to change. I'm not talking about the 10 Commandments. They're a very good idea. Oh if only that was all that the Church based it's teachings on. The world we live in today is NOT the same as it was at the time the bible was written, or the church was formed, or when Jesus was supposedly alive. Now, before everyone gets their knickers in a knot, I am a baptized (albeit non-practicing, no longer believing) Catholic. I spent my childhood as an alterserver, attending Sunday school, church every Sunday (both Anglican for mom and Catholic for dad), and even seriously considered becoming a nun. I don't classify myself as an athiest but I suppose I'm pretty darned close (naturally, after 15 years of indoctrination, I've still got some guilt issues buried deep down inside). Most religions have, at their core, basic beliefs such as Christianity's ten commandments which are pretty darned good rules to live life by, but that's as far as it goes. Everything else associated with organized religion is pretty much crap.

The Catholic Church is one giant hypocrisy. They teach us that all men are created equal and we should treat others as we wish them to treat us. And yet, they exlude gays and lesbians. More wars have been fought in the name of religion than for any other reason. During the expansion of European empires around the world, native populations in Africa, Asia and the Americas were routinely slaughtered or enslaved in the name of God. And the bible itself? Hmmm. Let's see: Old Testament, an eye for an eye; New Testament, turn the other cheek. One is the word of God, the other the word of Jesus. Who's right? Oh, and wasn't there some story about a camel and a rich guy? Hmmm. Interesting to see all the wealth the church has accummulated over the centuries. What do they need it for? Helping feed the millions of people around the world who are starving? Helping educate kids in third world countries who don't have access to clean water let alone schools and books? How about that rule about not worshipping idols? Perhaps best not to go there.

And apparently, it really is men they're referring to when they say they're all created equal. The church hides pedophiles amongst their ranks, covering up their crimes, paying off victims and yet they won't allow women to become priests and would rather support unwanted/unplanned pregnancies than support the use of birth control in an already overpopulated world. They can become nuns, I can hear you saying, why do they need to be priests? Explain to me why there has to be any sexual division of labour within the church to begin with? It goes back to the church not changing with the times.

Perhaps someone should inform the Pope and his cardinals that men and women are equal. Oh wait, they're all men, they wouldn't understand - these are the same people who have yet to elect a non-European pope. Instead they voted in Benedict XVI. Yeah, that was a brilliant idea.

2 comments:

Timothy said...

Greetings, Captain Karen! Saw your post in Google Blogsearch and came to read.

>"The Church has become outdated, afraid to change"

Um, the Church does not conform (change) to us, we are to conform (change) to the Church.

>"(naturally, after 15 years of indoctrination, I've still got some guilt issues buried deep down inside)."

Those "guilt issues" are the result of the supernatural grace that was imparted to you at Baptism and through the sacraments.

>"The Catholic Church is one giant hypocrisy."

Not possible. Institutions are incapable of hypocrisy, however, the individuals within the institution are capable of hypocrisy.

>"They teach us that all men are created equal..."

Um, where does the Church teach that? Sounds more like the secular Declaration of Independence than the Catechism or Bible.

And, if you and I were created equal, why is it that I as a male can never give birth? Doesn't seem like we were created equal to me.

>"And yet, they exlude gays and lesbians."

Nonsense. The Catholic Church does not exclude gays and lesbians. GLBT individuals are children of God with immortal souls made in His image and God loves them and has a perfect plan for their salvation. Jesus died for their sins and provided His Church for them as well. Like all unmarried Catholics, GLBT are called to live chaste lives of celibacy.

>"Interesting to see all the wealth the church has accummulated over the centuries."

Wealth? What wealth? That's a common myth. You don't know your Church very well young Catholic. Ask to see your parish or diocese financial reports.

You may be interested to read that "Vatican's budget falls into deficit because of weak dollar". The article states "The pope uses that fund for charitable purposes or to build churches in poor countries."

If you are referring to the Vatican Museums, that property is held in trust for the world and has a value of just $1 on the books. Selling the items would transfer your and your childrens' heritage into the hands of private collectors ad generate just enough income to give every one funds for about one month. Come month two, there would be the same poverty and starvation. What then?

Do you not remember Jesus rebuking Judas for wanting to sell the precious oil for money to give to the poor? Same thing.

Your heart is in the right place though. Charity and love for your fellow man or woman is one of the gifts of grace.

>"Helping feed the millions of people around the world who are starving? Helping educate kids in third world countries who don't have access to clean water let alone schools and books?"

Perhaps you are not aware that the Catholic Church operates the largest system of schools, hospitals and charities in the world in an attempt to alleviate hungery and ignorance.

You might watch the short 2-minute video "Epic" to get a larger view of your Catholic Church.

>"How about that rule about not worshipping idols?"

Most Catholics don't worship idols, athough many have fallen to worshipping money, drugs, sex, easy believism, etc. Pray for them.

>"...yet they won't allow women to become priests..."

There's no authority to "allow." Since you have the theology all solved, please inform the Church by what authority they may ordain women as priests. Even the RCWP have been unable to answer that fundamental question. The RCWP just "assumed" they had authority.

The authority problem isn't confined to just the Roman Church, but exists in all 22 Catholic Churches (Melkite Catholics, Chaldean Catholics, etc.) and the many Orthodox Churches. There are a great many Catholic female theologians and none as yet have found the authority to ordain women as priests.

>"would rather support unwanted/unplanned pregnancies than support the use of birth control in an already overpopulated world"

Actually, the CHurch would rather support abstinance and prevent unwanted pregancies. Also, the Church is not anti-birth control, but anti-artificial birth control. There is a difference.

Regarding "overpopulated world", regional overpopulation is not the same as world overpopulation. You seem unaware that world fertility rates are crashing and a Demographic Winter is impending. Much of the world's population growth is due to increasing longevity from medical advances and not births. As a female blogger, you might consider becoming familiar with the importance of the terms "2.1" and "TFR". You likely will live to see the world's population enter sustained decline for the first time in world history. The economic impact will not be nice, so be prepared.

http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/360/11247_population.html

>"Explain to me why there has to be any sexual division of labour within the church to begin with?"

Because God didn't make us the same, God made us male and female with different roles. Its all explained in Genesis.

>"these are the same people who have yet to elect a non-European pope. Instead they voted in Benedict XVI. Yeah, that was a brilliant idea."

Clearly you have little idea as to how a new Pope is chosen and the discernment process that it entails. The Church is choosing the next sucessor of Peter. Had an African or South American been the best candidate, then they likely would have been chosen. BTW, did you know that there is no requirement that the Pope be an ordained priest? Any baptised Catholic male may be selected as Pope. Your own father may qualify!

God bless...

+Timothy

Dr. Monkey Von Monkerstein said...

Yet another reason to never ever be a christian, especially a wacky catholic one.

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